Discussion about the ROCdigital rocbox mp3 players.
Tuesday, April 26, 2005
Welcome
I started this blog about the rocbox because I can't find much user support on the web about these mp3 players. I own the 20 GB player, which I bought on sale at CompUSA.
I purchased it because it was cheap. I wanted it for road trips and have been pleased with it so far. Also use it as a data hard drive to transport Pictures and files.
My windows XP will run defrag on it without a problem.
I also bought it on sale at CompUSA. I was going to purchase and I-POD but was convinced that this was just as good. I have had problems with it since I got it and I can't find any real support for the thing. I have tried to take music off my rocbox but when I'm done it is still on there. I've tried adding new music and after it synchs I can't find it on the player. Is anyone else having this problem?
Try resetting the rocbox (with a paperclip) and also try running the utility program and clicking the "Recover" button. This rebuilds the database files on the rocbox that tell your rocbox what music is on, or not on, it.
When you installed the software that came with the rocbox it loaded a program called "rocbox Utility Update". If you open that program you will see a "Recover" button.
I would like to know when you create a Playlist using songs that are already in the rocbox, does the new playlist of songs take up additional space on the rocbox?
First off, no the playlists do not take up additional space (none that you will notice anyway). They take up just a few KB, they don't make copies of the music files or anything like that. Second, I use the Monster brand tape adapter. There are many brands, they are all similar - you can buy them anywhere (Best Buy, CompUSA, practically any electronics store).
I don't have a tape player and I don't like the FM transmitter, because its always making fuzzy noises. What other universal adapter can you recommend? Or what other options can you recommend?
I remember recently seeing an adapter @ costco. It plugs into your cars cigarette lighter and has a USB port on the other end. I haven't heard much about it but you mgiht check it out.
I think the cigarette lighter adapter with the usb port is used for charging the rocbox @ 5 volts in your car. There are two types of FM transmitters: the kind that transmit wirelessly (which suck because they're always fuzzy) and then the kind that you can actually hard wire into the back of your car radio's antenna port. This is what you want, but you either need to be fairly mechanically savvy to install it so you don't see any wires or pay some $$$ for someone else to do it.
I just downloaded Ipodder to receive podcast. I would like to listen on my rocbox. However, the podcast goes directly into itunes(my daughter is lucky, she has an ipod), Does anybody know how to get the podcast directly into Windows media player so I can put onto my rocbox?
Can you please give me a step by step run-thru on how to make playlists for the rocbox? I can can sync the songs but I can't keep them in any playlist form.
http://buybox.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009GE2KO/ref=pd_luc_23_lc_ax4_r1c3_a3_i/104-2424905-0247145?v=glance&s=electronics looks like there gonna be a new 4 gb rocbox soon
The rocbox uses a playlist file format called .plp. If you save a couple of playlists that you create on your rocbox then look at them on your PC in the SYSTEM\PLAYLIST folder you'll see what I'm talking about. It's a simple format. You can read about it more here, they also have the C code to convert PLP to a TXT file and vice versa so you can mod your own. I also found a program called PLP Create MaNDaRK wrote to create the file for you from an imported .m3u playlist!
I have enjoyed my rocbox for about 6 months. However, when I turn on my rocbox now it shows that there is NO DATA (no songs). I than turn it on and off a few times and all of the sudden my songs are there. Than they are gone the next day.Is there anything I can do myself before I send it to the Service Center In Texas?
Hi, does ne 1 know if the ipod 3gen case will fit rocbox. Also, can ne 1 send me the installation cd free. My didnt copme with one. I bought it on ebay. Thanks
hi does anyone have a spare travel charger for the 20gb rocbox or know where i can purchase one because the rocbox is no longer sold by roc-digital.com(they are discontinuing all rocbox products)and i have not been able to charge my rocbox for months.
Visit your local Radio Shack. They have a wide assortment of chargers and adapter tips. I'm certain they can help. It's possible you might need to know the voltage of the original charger (hopefully someone else here can read there's and post the info).
Okay heres the deal i got fully working playlists and my files organized in folder in the rock box /System/MUSIC directory. First Download the HDDTOOL Via
After you download copy the program to the root directory of the roc box.
I found it best to copy all content to computer (arranged in folders that you wish to be playlists), i arranged mine in folders for Rock, Rap, Country, Etc.
Then delete all music and playlists from the rocbox
Launch Program its will give you an error message saying the file structure has been modified, click yes to tell it to repair.
Afterwards it will ask what type of player you have. Select "Bantam BA1000".
Then you will get another error, just ignore this one, it doesnt affect anything. Click okay.
Now it will search ur hard drive for music & playlists. Once its finished. Click on the settings menu... select Auto create playlists de-select any others in that menu.
Unless you dont want your music stored in folders in the music directory. if thats the case select no sub dirs
Now you can click and drag your files from your computer onto that window and the HDDTOOL software will copy the music and create your playlists.
Once you finished copying files Click quit, click yes.
Now run your "roc box utility update" program that came with your rocbox. Click on recover, then click yes. this will correct your database files.
no prob. Glad to help. It was getting really frustrating for me, so i though id share once i figured it out. You may also want to try to create manual playlists in a text editor (create a playlist via the roc box interface, then edit it in text editor). Then run the HDD Tool as instructed, let it rebuild the database, close it and repair with the roc boox utility. That might work as well, but haven't tried.
I tried editing the .plp file in text editor (taking out songs) and re-saving as a .plp and rebuilding the database, but it doesnt work. It shows up in my playlists on my roc box but when i select it (to see what songs are in it) it says "No Data".
Hi From Sydney I bought the RocBox while on holiday in the States My problem is the volume control button on the right hand side of the unit is broken does anyone know how to open the player so i repair it
are you setting folder options to show invisible folders & files? Then going into the "System" folder (invisible) and then the "music" folder inside that. Thats the stuff you want to delete. -Big Daddy E
Thanks Big Daddy E. Ill give that a try heres a tip that might help someone who is living in cold temperatures, i use my rocbox in my car, and i smoke a lot and often have my window down. General knowledge of batteries tells me that a warm battery usually works better(longer) than a cold one. I tried this with my rocbox, (put it under my shirt against stomache when driving)and this enables me to keep on smokin and ridin with tunes for as much as a couple hours after it initially dies.
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I've got the Rocbox 20gb and purchased the Sony CDX-F5710 headunit for my car. I'm using the AUX inputs with a dual RCA to 1/8th inch headphone jack into the Rocbox. I cannot hear any sound when I turn up the volume, however, if I put the volume at zero, I hear a faint sound of the music. I've tried it with my girlfriend's ipod and its the same thing. Anyone have an idea?
If anyone reads this blog debating on buying a roc box, i strongly urge you to save your money and buy a ipod. As you can see its a pain in the ass to sync it.
and as far as my roc box goes i had it 6 mos and it stopped plaing the mid-range through the headphone jack. Since i have a 1 year warranty. i called roc-digital, i was told to call back in 2 weeks cause they were switching the company that fixes their mp3 player. i said okay, called back 2 weeks later and they said that there tech guys were backed up call back in 3 weeks.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE RUN-AROUND OR WHAT!?! (Are tech guys fixing them or are they subbing out the work to another company?)
i'm fed up. i'm just gonna save my ones and buy a ipod. I suggest you do the same.
My Rocbox has stopped playing sound from one ear of my headphones.... and it is slowly getting harder to get sound from it at all. I am sure that my Headphones are alright as they work fine on other devices (Walkman, CD Player, etc) I really need to know how to fix this problem. Often, the sound comes out of the left side of the earphones if I twist and turn the wires a little... but then it stops coming out from the right side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I bought a Rocbox about a year ago and I thought it was time to change my songs so I deleted all my songs and loaded new ones on. Once the transfer was completed I disconected the rocbox from my computer and turned it on. When I did that I was suprised to see that the old songs were still on it but they would not play and the new songes were nowhere in sight. Why aren't I able to load new songs or delete the old ones?
Hi, I am a new user of the RocBox I see that Damon "D" Dash no longer has a website up, so I can't get any firmware upgrades. What is the latest version of the firmware that was released and do you you know where I can download it?
Is there any way that I can get the installation disc for the Rocbox because mine has been freezing and now it says that there is no software is found. PLEASE HELP I NEED MY ROCBOX!!!!!!!!
My rocbox (purchased in March 2005) does not work anymore. Initially, a couple of times it gave a message "operating system not found" and shut down. Then turning it on again, it will work fine. Now, after showing the rocbox logo for about thirty seconds or so it simply shuts down. Any help to fix it will be greatly appreciated.
I hope this helps out on who might need the firmware and setup software: *http://rapidshare.de/files/26254980/rocboxFWSetup2004_12_1_1041_.exe *http://rapidshare.de/files/26254718/rocboxsetup.exe
My rocbox kept saying "Operating System Not Found!", and it was at first a few times, and then it started to become more and more frequent until a week ago it wouldn't go away and my computer wouldnt recognize it without reformatting it, so I formatted it, and now it only gives me 2 GB of space and it still says it cannot find an operating system, can someone please give me some advice? Thanks
I've had my RocBox for a year now and have only used it a couple of times...i've downloaded about 1 GB songs to it and realized that (1) i don't have much music and (2) i don't have time to figure out how to make playlists....so if there are RocBox users out there that wants mines for a good price, let me know (bmprb@yahoo.com) thanks
i had just bought the rocbox yesterday for 45 bucks and i dont know how to put music into it because i dont have the software if you know how to put music into it plz write back to davidsolano3000@yahoo.com asap thanx
I got my rocbox from a friend and the software told me to download wmp10 and everytime I open the rocbox in wmp it always freezes, even with any other media player. And wmp also tells me it doesnt support the rocbox anymore and I need to download the latest software, does anyone know where I can find it.
Am looking for firmware for the rocbox 14003 20 gig mp3 player. My roc i got used and has no cd etc. Does anyone have a cd they can create an iso from and e-mail me?
has any one gotten a new firmware for Roc Box 20gb, the WM player 11.00 will not accept the firmware on the roc box , so its un usable , now can be sued as portable Drive ONLY, looks like company is out of biz ??
have you ever had a problem with the rocbox where a screen comes up with a hand and says connot find server? And if you have do you know how to fix it?
Are The Any Acessories Out there for it. MY Mom asked would a Zune Charger Fit it. I bought My rockbox used (mistake) and it came with no charger or usb cable. Maybe you guys got help. If not maybe it can be scrapped to save a Gen 2 Ipod.
This is the best advice i can give anyone with a good old RocBox. Download the free version of Yahoo! Music Jukebox. It will allow you to manipulate everything involving music and getting it on/off the RocBox. Here is the link http://www.musicmatch.com/download/free/?OS=pc&MODE=input&DID=999998197&OEM=YMJ&LANG=&SOURCE=learn_more Just make sure to reconnect your rocbox after you have the program running and it will detect it. Best of luck.
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I purchased it because it was cheap. I wanted it for road trips and have been pleased with it so far. Also use it as a data hard drive to transport Pictures and files.
My windows XP will run defrag on it without a problem.
I also bought it on sale at CompUSA. I was going to purchase and I-POD but was convinced that this was just as good. I have had problems with it since I got it and I can't find any real support for the thing. I have tried to take music off my rocbox but when I'm done it is still on there. I've tried adding new music and after it synchs I can't find it on the player. Is anyone else having this problem?
Try resetting the rocbox (with a paperclip) and also try running the utility program and clicking the "Recover" button. This rebuilds the database files on the rocbox that tell your rocbox what music is on, or not on, it.
What is the "recover" button??
When you installed the software that came with the rocbox it loaded a program called "rocbox Utility Update". If you open that program you will see a "Recover" button.
I just got the rocbox a few weeks ago, and I am still trying to figure it out.
Is there something you can buy, so you can play it through the speakers of your car?
I use a tape adapter... An FM transmitter would work too if you don't have a cassette player in your car.
I would like to know when you create a Playlist using songs that are already in the rocbox, does the new playlist of songs take up additional space on the rocbox?
What kind of tape adapter do you use, and where can I purchase one?
First off, no the playlists do not take up additional space (none that you will notice anyway). They take up just a few KB, they don't make copies of the music files or anything like that. Second, I use the Monster brand tape adapter. There are many brands, they are all similar - you can buy them anywhere (Best Buy, CompUSA, practically any electronics store).
I don't have a tape player and I don't like the FM transmitter, because its always making fuzzy noises. What other universal adapter can you recommend? Or what other options can you recommend?
Does anybody have a good case for this rocbox?
I remember recently seeing an adapter @ costco. It plugs into your cars cigarette lighter and has a USB port on the other end. I haven't heard much about it but you mgiht check it out.
I think the cigarette lighter adapter with the usb port is used for charging the rocbox @ 5 volts in your car. There are two types of FM transmitters: the kind that transmit wirelessly (which suck because they're always fuzzy) and then the kind that you can actually hard wire into the back of your car radio's antenna port. This is what you want, but you either need to be fairly mechanically savvy to install it so you don't see any wires or pay some $$$ for someone else to do it.
I just downloaded Ipodder to receive podcast. I would like to listen on my rocbox. However, the podcast goes directly into itunes(my daughter is lucky, she has an ipod), Does anybody know how to get the podcast directly into Windows media player so I can put onto my rocbox?
Let us know if anything works for you.
Looks like there might be a rocbox2!
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000693037532/
Can you please give me a step by step run-thru on how to make playlists for the rocbox? I can can sync the songs but I can't keep them in any playlist form.
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looks like there gonna be a new 4 gb rocbox soon
does anyone know how to unfreeze an Rocbox 512mb. Its stuck on the welcome screen and there's no reset button.Help!!!
The rocbox uses a playlist file format called .plp. If you save a couple of playlists that you create on your rocbox then look at them on your PC in the SYSTEM\PLAYLIST folder you'll see what I'm talking about. It's a simple format. You can read about it more here, they also have the C code to convert PLP to a TXT file and vice versa so you can mod your own. I also found a program called PLP Create MaNDaRK wrote to create the file for you from an imported .m3u playlist!
I have enjoyed my rocbox for about 6 months. However, when I turn on my rocbox now it shows that there is NO DATA (no songs). I than turn it on and off a few times and all of the sudden my songs are there. Than they are gone the next day.Is there anything I can do myself before I send it to the Service Center In Texas?
Hi, My rocbox says that there is no data, but when I go on the wmp, it says I have 18.42 gb left, should install firmware first?
Hi,
does ne 1 know if the ipod 3gen case will fit rocbox. Also, can ne 1 send me the installation cd free. My didnt copme with one. I bought it on ebay. Thanks
hi does anyone have a spare travel charger for the 20gb rocbox or know where i can purchase one because the rocbox is no longer sold by roc-digital.com(they are discontinuing all rocbox products)and i have not been able to charge my rocbox for months.
Visit your local Radio Shack. They have a wide assortment of chargers and adapter tips. I'm certain they can help. It's possible you might need to know the voltage of the original charger (hopefully someone else here can read there's and post the info).
Okay heres the deal i got fully working playlists and my files organized in folder in the rock box /System/MUSIC directory.
First Download the HDDTOOL Via
After you download copy the program to the root directory of the roc box.
I found it best to copy all content to computer (arranged in folders that you wish to be playlists), i arranged mine in folders for Rock, Rap, Country, Etc.
Then delete all music and playlists from the rocbox
Launch Program
its will give you an error message
saying the file structure has been modified, click yes to tell it to repair.
Afterwards it will ask what type of player you have. Select "Bantam BA1000".
Then you will get another error, just ignore this one, it doesnt affect anything. Click okay.
Now it will search ur hard drive for music & playlists. Once its finished. Click on the settings menu...
select Auto create playlists
de-select any others in that menu.
Unless you dont want your music stored in folders in the music directory. if thats the case select
no sub dirs
Now you can click and drag your files from your computer onto that window and the HDDTOOL software will copy the music and create your playlists.
Once you finished copying files
Click quit, click yes.
Now run your "roc box utility update" program that came with your rocbox. Click on recover, then click yes. this will correct your database files.
Now play and enjoy.
Download tool here:
http://solonweb.free.fr/HDDTool.exe
now this guy is a beast...the first useful comment on this blog..knighthawk..ur useless...thanks anonymous..
no prob. Glad to help. It was getting really frustrating for me, so i though id share once i figured it out. You may also want to try to create manual playlists in a text editor (create a playlist via the roc box interface, then edit it in text editor). Then run the HDD Tool as instructed, let it rebuild the database, close it and repair with the roc boox utility. That might work as well, but haven't tried.
-Big Daddy E (anonymous)
I tried editing the .plp file in text editor (taking out songs) and re-saving as a .plp and rebuilding the database, but it doesnt work. It shows up in my playlists on my roc box but when i select it (to see what songs are in it) it says "No Data".
-Big Daddy E
Hi From Sydney I bought the RocBox while on holiday in the States My problem is the volume control button on the right hand side of the unit is broken does anyone know how to open the player so i repair it
cheers from OZ
See the Hardware section of my blog, I have a detailed description how to take it apart with pictures. http://rocbox.blogspot.com/2005/05/hardware.html
are you setting folder options to show invisible folders & files? Then going into the "System" folder (invisible) and then the "music" folder inside that. Thats the stuff you want to delete.
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i called roc-digital, i was told to call back in 2 weeks cause they were switching the company that fixes their mp3 player. i said okay, called back 2 weeks later and they said that there tech guys were backed up call back in 3 weeks.
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i'm fed up. i'm just gonna save my ones and buy a ipod. I suggest you do the same.
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Have you looked at the RocBox site? Under support you can download the RocBox utility, which is the same software that comes with the RocBox.
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I've lost my home charger for the unit including the little usb tip. Anyone have any ideas on how to replace it. 12 volt charger would be nice too.
My Rocbox has stopped playing sound from one ear of my headphones.... and it is slowly getting harder to get sound from it at all. I am sure that my Headphones are alright as they work fine on other devices (Walkman, CD Player, etc) I really need to know how to fix this problem. Often, the sound comes out of the left side of the earphones if I twist and turn the wires a little... but then it stops coming out from the right side. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I bought a Rocbox about a year ago and I thought it was time to change my songs so I deleted all my songs and loaded new ones on. Once the transfer was completed I disconected the rocbox from my computer and turned it on. When I did that I was suprised to see that the old songs were still on it but they would not play and the new songes were nowhere in sight. Why aren't I able to load new songs or delete the old ones?
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Is there any way that I can get the installation disc for the Rocbox because mine has been freezing and now it says that there is no software is found. PLEASE HELP I NEED MY ROCBOX!!!!!!!!
My rocbox (purchased in March 2005) does not work anymore. Initially, a couple of times it gave a message "operating system not found" and shut down. Then turning it on again, it will work fine. Now, after showing the rocbox logo for about thirty seconds or so it simply shuts down. Any help to fix it will be greatly appreciated.
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For a charger just use any usb wire that will fit it and plug it in that should work fine if u just let it sit on the usb wire
I hope this helps out on who might need the firmware and setup software: *http://rapidshare.de/files/26254980/rocboxFWSetup2004_12_1_1041_.exe *http://rapidshare.de/files/26254718/rocboxsetup.exe
i have a rocbox and i formated it by accident now it sayes operating system now found. can u help me to find out how to reinstall the system
My rocbox kept saying "Operating System Not Found!", and it was at first a few times, and then it started to become more and more frequent until a week ago it wouldn't go away and my computer wouldnt recognize it without reformatting it, so I formatted it, and now it only gives me 2 GB of space and it still says it cannot find an operating system, can someone please give me some advice? Thanks
I've had my RocBox for a year now and have only used it a couple of times...i've downloaded about 1 GB songs to it and realized that (1) i don't have much music and (2) i don't have time to figure out how to make playlists....so if there are RocBox users out there that wants mines for a good price, let me know (bmprb@yahoo.com) thanks
i had just bought the rocbox yesterday for 45 bucks and i dont know how to put music into it because i dont have the software
if you know how to put music into it plz write back to davidsolano3000@yahoo.com asap
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does anyone know where i can get a rocbox fixed
I got my rocbox from a friend and the software told me to download wmp10 and everytime I open the rocbox in wmp it always freezes, even with any other media player. And wmp also tells me it doesnt support the rocbox anymore and I need to download the latest software, does anyone know where I can find it.
Am looking for firmware for the rocbox 14003 20 gig mp3 player. My roc i got used and has no cd etc. Does anyone have a cd they can create an iso from and e-mail me?
has any one gotten a new firmware for Roc Box 20gb, the WM player 11.00 will not accept the firmware on the roc box , so its un usable , now can be sued as portable Drive ONLY, looks like company is out of biz ??
have you ever had a problem with the rocbox where a screen comes up with a hand and says connot find server? And if you have do you know how to fix it?
Are The Any Acessories Out there for it. MY Mom asked would a Zune Charger Fit it. I bought My rockbox used (mistake) and it came with no charger or usb cable. Maybe you guys got help. If not maybe it can be scrapped to save a Gen 2 Ipod.
This is the best advice i can give anyone with a good old RocBox. Download the free version of Yahoo! Music Jukebox. It will allow you to manipulate everything involving music and getting it on/off the RocBox. Here is the link http://www.musicmatch.com/download/free/?OS=pc&MODE=input&DID=999998197&OEM=YMJ&LANG=&SOURCE=learn_more
Just make sure to reconnect your rocbox after you have the program running and it will detect it.
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